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  • When I was talking about antagonist fussing last week, it seemed like you didn't think it was that big of a deal. Here's an example that happened recently:

    • November 18th: character is changed to the "secondary antagonist" when he had been "one of the two main antagonists".
    • Five hours later, a different person changes it back.
    • Fourteen hours later, the first person puts it back to what they had.
    • Five hours after that, a third person changes it to being just the "main antagonist".
    • Only five minutes later, the first person changes it back to "secondary antagonist".
    • A day later, the third person puts it back to what they had (main antagonist) and adds an explanation in the trivia section as to why they're right.
    • Just over two hours later, the first person changes it to "one of the two main antagonists", the way it was before they they changed it the first time on November 18th, and then removed the "this is why I'm right" reason from the trivia section.
    • Four hours later, the first person changed their mind and said the character is the "main antagonist".

    In just one week, the first person changed their mind three times about how much of an antagonist the character is. They started with secondary antagonist, then changed it to one of the two main antagonists, and then it became main antagonist. No one else edited the page in between the time the character was called "one of the two main antagonists" and when it became "main antagonist", so this person contradicted themselves.

    Does the first person actually know what kind of antagonist the character is? Or, are they changing it just to change it?


    That's the sort of thing that's been going on for years and why it's been necessary to get people to stop antagonist fussing.

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    • You're doing it again. Yesterday, you changed Al McWhiggin's page to say he was the tertiary antagonist of "Toy Story of Terror!" and now you've change it back to him being the minor antagonist of it.

      You've already been blocked on the Villains Wiki for antagonist fussing and if you keep this up, you'll be blocked here and over on Wickedpedia. As I said there, please find something other to do than to pin labels on characters about what kind of antagonist they are.

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    • I just wanted to let you know that someone just created a page for Brandon Breyer, who is a villain not an antagonist.

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    • A villain automatically includes being an antagonist, so the page can stay. The focus on the wiki needs to be on antagonists, so if they're a villain, that should be more of an afterthought instead of the focus.

      As to who created the page, I'm aware of who wrote it.

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    • But isn't an antagonist a character who opposes the protagonist? Because Brandon is the protagonist.

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    • Shouldn't the Antagonists Wiki be "antagonists only"? If villain's are counted as antagonists why does the Antagonists Wiki exist in the first place? Why not just have the Villains Wiki?

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      04:35, February 10, 2020
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      black mask is cool
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    • There are many more antagonists in stories than there are villains. The Villains Wiki wants villains only, so this wiki has the opportunity to cover more characters than the Villains Wiki does. If an antagonist also happens to be a villain, that's a bonus, not a requirement. It's been over-emphasized in the past, and it's going to be scaled back so we give being an antagonist priority. Later on, how we refer to them is going to change even more to simplify things. This will be covered later.

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    • I'm sorry for my OCDing about antagonists. I know that i need to let it go and just accept the fact that not every wiki page is going to agree with me. I'm going to stop that now and i promise will never do it again on any Wikis.

      I will say though that Jango Fett and Count Dooku's pages both say they are the main antagonist, that should probably be fixed, and Jango's page says edit a few times on it.

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    • Lizardnut101
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      Figured it out.
      04:34, February 10, 2020
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    • I just left the Grievous hero guy a message on his Wiki, I'M READY FOR WAR!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • I'm autisitc sorry:).

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    • The message wasn't necessary. He's doing himself more harm than good by what he's saying without anyone's help.

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    • Catwoman Are other languages allowed?

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    • A FANDOM user
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