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  • Hello Sir.

    Since you blocked me on the "List of Deaths" wiki i wasn't able to contact you there, so i came here.

    I would like to point out that i have been asking nicely for people to put named deaths only on the MonsterVerse pages for a super long time. On the Van Helsing page, i have asked it nicely at least 20 times, but someone (i will not say who, for i am not a snitch like those other users) kept putting back the information. So yes, i did end up losing my temper and using swear-words in my next edits. But i want you to know that i was NOT vandalizing any pages, i was only applying the wiki's rules.

    This is the first time i've broken rules, and god knows that they pushed me to my limits. So i would like it if you re-considered my block, which is until NOVEMBER! I will make sure not to use foul language anymore, you have my word.

    Trash.

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  • You are among the people who visited here since January 1st, but that was before I activated the pop-up message that notifies everyone I am in the process of adopting the wiki so you may not have seen it. There's just a week to go before I'll turn in the request, so if you have any comments, please enter them on the blog.

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  • Part of what I am changing on pages is to simply the description of the character. Harvey Dent's description of "tritagonist turned secondary and final antagonist" is a bit complicated, but I've seen descriptions like "secondary quadragonist turned semi-reformed minor protagonist".

    It's related to antagonist fussing, where people try to rigidly define exactly what kind of a character is, and they spend so much time changing it back and forth that they don't bother writing anything else about the character.

    If you're building a house with bricks, you don't spend 99% of the time agonizing over one brick, trying to figure out what color it should be, or the texture, or what mortar to use, or whether to paint it afterwards, or whether it should be rotated 180 degrees from where it was yesterday, or whether it flipped over so the other side is up. And while that's being debated, the rest of the house isn't being built.

    That's what people do with antagonist fussing, and that's why I'll put in a simpler description so people can focus on what makes the character a person rather than a label.

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    • Yeah well, “tertiary antagonist” isn’t really antagonist fussing, it’s something to do with a third antagonist just like a main antagonist is a first antagonist while a secondary antagonist is a second antagonist. But, we can only refer antagonists who appear for a short time and that aren’t seen again for the rest of a story as minor antagonists.

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    • That goes along with simplifying the description. Once you get below a secondary character, they are minor characters that don't really do much, kind of like when you see a Stormtrooper walking down a hallway in Star Wars.

      By just using "minor" for anything below "secondary", it heads off descriptions like "quaternary", "quadragonist", "quintagonist", "quinary" and down to sixth-level, seventh-level, eighth-level, ninth-level, tenth-level, and so on and so on. More rigidly-defining of really unimportant characters.

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  • Thanks for reminding me about the page for Von. I am going to use that as an example of how people can take a tiny detail about an upcoming movie and start wildly inventing details. It often goes beyond the usual speculation of "Hey, that sounds interesting. I wonder what it will be like," into "I know everything about exactly what will happen based on the four seconds of information in the movie trailer or this article."

    In fact, I need to do a side-by-side comparison between a few movie trailers and what is actually in the movie to help show that trailers take what's in the movie and alters it to get you interested. They're not intended to be 100% accurate, like some people have assumed they will be.

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    • Well, Benicio Del Toro’s character’s name in Star Wars: Episode VIII The Last Jedi wasn’t really Von, but it was DJ, and his character was not a Sith Lord either, nor his character was the main antagonist of the film, but his character was a villain anyway.

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    • Right. We need a new page about DJ since the entire edit history of the Von page was wild speculation. There's nothing to salvage and they didn't even get the name right.

      I want to keep the Von page as an example of that wild speculation, because it's another example of twisting a character to make them more evil than they really are.

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