User talk:RedCoatOfficial

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Happy editing, Brandon Rhea (help forum | blog) 03:12, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Reducing the number of edit wars
At the moment, you are the only active admin on this wiki. I have been talking with a few admins on other wikis about a problem that keeps coming up. That problem is people are fighting and having edit wars over exactly what kind of antagonist characters are. I've had to make a policy against that on a couple of wikis I'm an admin on.

Obviously, it would not be realistic to completely prevent people from calling characters "antagonists" on a wiki that has that word in its name. But it is possible to use simpler descriptions that are less subject to squabbling over which one should be used.

I'd like discuss with you about how to adapt the policy for use here so that people can spend more time talking about who the character is and what they do, rather than argue over a tiny detail like the antagonist description. I've done quite a bit of research into this issue to see how harmful that can be. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 18:26, November 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey! Thanks for coming to me! Yeah, I'd be glad to help out. I do think we should list the antagonists position but it seems as though some people let their favorites cloud their judgment a little. :/ Tysonjackson (talk) 18:31, November 28, 2015 (UTC)


 * The "antagonist fussing" as I call it has been a problem for at least two years on many wikis. At the moment, the fighting here is over exactly what kind of antagonist Kylo Ren, General Hux and Supreme Leader Snoke are from the next Star Wars movie. The movie hasn't been released yet, but that isn't stopping people from being convinced that they know everything about these characters, so they're already fighting over trying to pin all three down to a specific antagonist level.


 * We'll talk more about this shortly. If you like, you can reply here and I'll remember to check it. If you want to see the policy, it's here and the blog where I announced it is here. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 18:41, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

Hey! I just wanted say thank you so much for explaining the difference between an antagonist and a villain. This is something that I've tried to explain to users especially when it comes to Queen Elsa and the users just won't accept that she is considered one. They think that I'm saying that she's a villain. So thanks again for explaining that.

Cenationfan1 (talk) 12:31, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

cas you can see here

http://antagonists.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Grand_Master_Mario?diff=16178&oldid=15901 a other user messed up my page   she couse trubble all over wiki and can't take a hint can you block her

Mario should be blocked, he won't accept that Turbo's a Complete monster. Lady Satsuki (talk) 16:32, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

not she should be block for not leveing me alone and stalking me and telling me what I can and can not do  and I just want this nut job to leve me a lone she cose trubble all ovber wiki

I haven't touched his user page, it was his talk page because he's obsessed with keeping Turbo out of CM just because TV Tropes says he doesn't count. Lady Satsuki (talk) 16:45, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

first no I'm not I don't know what this wiki's stamders are compare to all the tropes wiki also you did edit my user page before and you are not even aloud to talk to me   any way here are some of the this she did

http://evil.wikia.com/wiki/User:B1bl1kal?diff=10959&oldid=6325

http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/User:Grand_Master_Mario?diff=2167074&oldid=2001

​   you also threten tv tropes as well

http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:281688

http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:281688

First of all threatening TV tropes has nothing to do with this debate, and second B1bl1kal had it coming.Lady Satsuki (talk) 16:45, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

he did  well you two must really hate eath other and he blocked you for harassment and other stuff and you are not aloud to talk to me but you still are like I said I don'tknow what the cm stand for this site is and also stop geting mad when some one edit's one page and stop attacking other admins

also stop telling people what they can and can't edit

I haven't attacked any admins, that asshat harassed me first. Lady Satsuki (talk) 17:28, April 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi! Lady please no name calling and the other user, please no edit wars. I don't know what the true definition of Complete Monster. Does Turbo fit?Tysonjackson (talk) 20:25, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * Turbo fails the starders for tv tropes and villains wiki also she is a nut job she has been know to harass other admins she was told not to talk to me and she still does she treating to send a virus to tv tropes and harass people just for editing pages or having different opinion please block her she is a nut job  she also don't repect other opioins and hates it when things don't gpo her way and she was told to not talk to me and she does it any way also she gets mad over a edit on a page that is base on opioins that is preety bad so pleas block her I'm getting sick of that nutjob.
 * and the way she reacts just beacous one page was edited just prov eves that she is not right in the head and I want her to leve me a long and stop talking to me like she said she would

Turbo
Could you put him back under Complete Monster please? Lady Satsuki (talk) 17:29, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Turbo fits the definition perfectly, he began his existence as the protagonist of his own racing game. Quite happy with all the attention he was receiving, his self-centered attitude became apparent when another racing game was installed in the arcade he lived in and stole his thunder. Turbo was furious, so he jumped into the other game in an attempt to win attention back to himself, resulting in both games getting put out of commission and unplugged for good, in the context of the film this basically ammounts to causing the destruction of two worlds. But this taught Turbo nothing except to cover his tracks better. When he entered the go-kart game called Sugar Rush, he tried to dispose of it's protagonist Vanellope von Schweetz by entering the game's coding via the Konami Code and deleting her data. Since her data couldn't be fully deleted and she got reduced to a glitch instead, he opted for the next best option: play God by reprogramming the game's other denizens via locking away their memories, thus defiling their entire existence, and get them to treat Vanellope horribly, turning her into an emotionally scarred social pariah who is harassed and antagonized by the people who should be her friends. Having taken on the guise of Sugar Rush's "rightful" ruler, King Candy, Turbo was content to be in charge of this game until Ralph came in looking for a displaced medal. Paranoid by the fact that Ralph could potentially unravel his little self-induced delusion, he does all that he can to get him to leave the game so that he can retain his power, finally settling on flat out lying to him about Vanellope winning a race being a threat to the existence of Sugar Rush and herself, which leads to a tragic betrayal of trust and a wrecked go-kart. When Vanellope's able to make it to the race anyway, "King Candy", refusing to let his schemes crumble, flies into a flat-out homicidal rage and attempts to smash her against the rocky racetrack before being outed as the now infamous Turbo. After getting eaten by a Cybug, his personality overrides it's programming and he turns into a nightmarish hybrid monster virus who makes it very clear to Ralph that he now wants to use his newfound power to take over any game in the arcade. He's willingly ready to bring ruination to the entire game world, as well as wipe out the entire arcade's system with his newly formed Cy-bug army, all for the sake of being the star. Oh, and it should be noted that we have no idea what happened in between Turbo getting two games decommissioned and him entering Sugar Rush. He very likely could have pulled this same stunt on plenty of other games. His line towards the end really clinches it. "Ooohoho look, it's your little friend! Let's watch her DIE together, shall we?" He says this to Ralph about Vanellope, who is about to be devoured by Cy-bugs, and says it while forcing Ralph's head towards the impending gruesome scene. His total deletion afterwards feels REALLY well deserved. Lady Satsuki (talk) 14:18, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Turbo's "going Turbo" was only the first and honestly lesser of his crimes. Everything he did in Sugar Rush is what pushes him over the edge, which is villainy we either see onscreen or see the effects of with great clarity. Dominating Madness (talk) 14:14, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

For the record, Mario tried to get Turbo removed from Complete monster on another wiki and an admin explained to him in detail why Turbo counts, he just didn't listen. Lady Satsuki (talk) 14:21, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Elsa
Could you unlock the Queen Elsa page so I can remove her from the Villains category? Lady Satsuki already put a comment on her page stating that she's not a villain and I don't want the page to get anymore comments like that.

Cenationfan1 (talk) 20:04, April 21, 2016 (UTC)