Thread:Jayden Jean-Baptiste/@comment-29915280-20161105142934/@comment-29486012-20170110141548

Jayden Jean-Baptiste wrote: For the record, I consider the Nero/Honest comparison utter twaddle. Syura is a relatively minor villain who only shows up in two arcs; Nihilus arguably has more screen-time and onscreen crimes than Nero.

Secondly, Honest is FAR worse than Nero. He murdered the Emperor's parents to get into power, he forced dozens of orphaned children through extreme training to become his personal assassins, resulting in most of them being killed, he's explicitly stated to be a cannibal who eats women, and in the final arc, he brainwashes the Emperor into killing his citizens by the dozens, destroying much of the Empire, and shoots and severely beats Leone to near-death, even after she was rendered (supposedly) harmless. The notion that he counts solely due to the actions of his underlings is total misrepresentation. I was just using that comparison to explain why Nero counts, I can name other villains that count despite not having much in the way of direct atrocities, Sauron and Orgodemir come to mind. (I recently got DQ7 on the 3DS and it erased any doubt I had about Orgodemir qualifying). Nihilus might do more directly, but most of his crimes are either authorised or directly ordered by Nero.